Ecclesiastes 9:11 demolishes anti-Calvinist mentality

The ultimate anti-Calvinist-crushing verse.

Ecclesiastes 9:11  “I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.”

One blogger wrote about this post that this verse in Ecclesiastes demolishes Calvinism mentality. But rightly dividing the Scriptures (2 Tim.2:15) will tell you the other way, that’s why I would like to say it demolishes anti-Calvinist mentality. I need you to watch this closely.

But,remember that the truth of the Scripture must not be ascribed to Calvin as you don’t want your stand ascribed to “Armenius”, nor to Pharisees. But I’d like to borrow the thought that some have for Calvinist, preferably because of the five points which is easily recognized. But remember also that it is not owned by Calvin , he just preached it as Paul preached it.

To Whom?

Just answering this question to whom the book was written deletes the controversy. It was not written to Gentiles that time but to Israel.

Ecc 1:1  The words of the Preacher, the son of David, king in Jerusalem.

Ecc 1:12  I the Preacher was king over Israel in Jerusalem.

The king was writing to Israel . And Israel during that time according to God’s program , Israel is His elect people. That is God’s way and reason of choosing, so where is the chance of the Gentiles there?  It is only in this age of grace where Paul the apostle told us  according to God’s revelation of the place of the believing Gentiles (Eph.2:12).If it pertains to  RACE  everyone establishes his own tribe. If it pertains to BATTLE everyone can fight for his existence , but God fights for Israel during those times. Concerning  BREAD one can find his own food. Of RICHES  one can find it in this world though we know that God FAVORED much Israel because it is His chosen nation (although no longer TODAY in this age of grace for the church), but  God has grace for all His creation. But recognizing that He did not entrusted the oracles to the Gentiles but to Israel ONLY (Rm.3:2)  during that time make us think that it is unto God to decide whom He will favor much. We must not be envious or questioning God’s way of election.

Back to whom the word of God was written, and since it was entrusted to Israelites, we can see that Gentiles during that time do not have the chance of knowing God and His will if it pertains to His words because it is not for them. So Ecclesiastes was written especially for Israelites, NOT FOR ALL yet. It is only when Israel rejected God’s way that God’s word no longer have to be first for Israelites, and we who are not Jews can benefit from God’s wisdom through the book  written by king Solomon.

Act 13:46  “Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles.”

Not all the times and not all the chances happened to all men. The author mentioned it in a limited sense, and verse 12 of Ecclesiastes 9  tells us it is about one’s  parting in this world. He is only telling us that  time and chance happened not ONLY  to swift, to strong,to the wise, to those with understanding and to those with skills, but even to slow, weak,  fools,  ignorant and unskilled. One’s life is taken away no matter if he is strong or weak.It is never discussing against ‘Calvinism’ because the author of Ecclesiastes understand the sovereignty of God and His grace to the elect  nation, Israel. Calvin and the others only agrees with the author in their Five points commonly known today and this verse is mostly against ‘anti-Calvinist’ minds.

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11 thoughts on “Ecclesiastes 9:11 demolishes anti-Calvinist mentality

  1. Calvinists spend all their time attacking the existence of chance. They say God pre-scripted everything and “nothing is left to chance.” Rick Warren says this in his Calvinist propaganda book The Purpose Driven Life. The Calvinist mantra is “THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CHANCE. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CHANCE. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CHANCE.” God must be seen as literally controlling everything in Calvinism. So the assertion that chance happens, demolishes Calvinism. Its that simple.

    • Without being quickened first, one cannot do or choose anything
      Ephesians 2:1″And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;”
      A dead cannot do something in order for God to like Him or help him.
      When it pertains to chances, it is in a limited sense. If one is already a believer, he has more chances…

      • This is such a stupid argument, (1) because Paul is not arguing inability, (2) because “dead” here clearly means dead in prospect, as you would say someone on death row is dead, like in that movie “Dead many walking on the green mile!” or when you threaten someone, “You’re a dead man!”

    • Seems to me Calvinists are the ones who are always telling God what he can and can’t do. Calvinists are always attempting to control God. “What’s that you’re doing there God? Giving humans freewill? No, no, no, you can’t do that. Then you wouldn’t be sovereign anymore. You’re too stupid to make beings with freewill without losing your sovereignty, so here, let me show you how its done [Calvinist shows God a diagram of how to build a robot]. See, God, isn’t that much better?” “Wait, what’s that you’re doing God? Sending Jesus to die for all humanity? No, no, no, that just won’t do. Don’t you know that that would be wasteful? You’d be wasting drops of Jesus’ blood. See, God, you idiot, don’t you know that each drop of Jesus’ blood LITERALLY washes away one person only? So if you have Jesus die shed too many drops of blood, that would be a waste, kind of like pouring expensive oil on Jesus’ head when it could have been sold for 500 bucks. So WE, the few, the brave, the Calvinists, can’t let you do that God. Now, sit your butt down and listen to Calvin’s sermon. If you roll your eyes even once, he’ll have the magistrate perforate your tongue, God, so sit still and behave.”

      • If Christ died for all, then why is it that some people will go to hell? Your preachers lied to you.Seems you are not reading your Bible. I have no interest to make more words because your conversation does not contain any truth.It sounds to me your doctrine comes from hell. Hope God will save you. Believe His word rather than tradition

      • “If Christ died for all, then why is it that some people will go to hell?”

        Because Jesus sacrifice was a sacrifice. Seriously, why is it that Calvinists have no clue what a sacrifice is? A sacrifice is not a direct execution swap.

        Its not like the punishment we deserved was to be crucified, so that as soon as Jesus was crucified our exact punishment was taken and now we are the untouchables and can go on sinning, giving God a raspberry and saying “Na na na boo boo, you can’t touch me!” Although this is what Calvinism teaches.

        A sacrifice, rather, comes in stages.

        Stage 1: The slaying of the victim, done normally by a layman. And Jesus was a layman while on earth, per Hebrews. “For if He were on earth, He would not be a priest, since there are priests who offer the gifts according to the law;” (Heb 8:4) “For He of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has officiated at the altar. For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning priesthood.” (Heb 7:13-14)

        Stage 2: The priest dashed the blood on the altar, or in the case of the Day of Atonement, presents it in the Holy of Holies. After quoting in Heb 5:6 the passage “You are a priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek” the author shows this only applies to Christ after the resurrection, for he says ” who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications, with vehement cries and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His godly fear, 8 though He was a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered. 9 And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him, 10 called by God as High Priest “according to the order of Melchizedek,” 11 of whom we have much to say, and hard to explain, since you have become dull of hearing.” (Heb 5:7-11) “For Christ has not entered the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us; 25 not that He should offer Himself often, …but now, once at the end of the ages, He has appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself. ” (Heb 9:24-26)

        Stage 3: The sacrifice must be applied. Even when the sacrifice is made, someone must come to God by it. “Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.” (Heb 7:25) And typically in the Law, when one offers a sacrifice and does not subsequently eat a certain portion of the meat by a certain time, the sacrifice becomes invalid. “And the flesh of the sacrifice of his peace offerings for thanksgiving shall be eaten the same day that it is offered; he shall not leave any of it until the morning.” (Lev 7:15) This sheds light on “We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle.” (Heb 13:10)

        So then, scripture shows the Calvinist doctrine of atonement, that as soon as Jesus gave up the ghost the few, the brave, the marines, were all saved, is a gross oversimplification and false doctrine. The application of the atonement is conditional upon faith and repentance at least, if not also baptism and (if one lives long enough afterwards) observing the Lord’s Supper.

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